Question:
How can i make my laptop Video card use Hard Drive Memory Insted of Stealing My RAM Memory!?
2009-02-18 21:08:02 UTC
It just sucks that the video card steals my Rams memory i wanned to play Fallout 3 so it said i needed 2gb ram witch my pc had but when i serched my Video card steals about 250mb from it witch makes me not have 2gb ram so it sucks i wanna know how to let it steal from my Hard Drive instead of RAM
Eight answers:
2009-02-19 15:47:34 UTC
Impossible !



Your laptop's graphics "chip" has either no memory at all or its own small memory reserve and when it is not enough "takes" up the "additional" memory it needs from the main memory (RAM) of your computer as allocated (available) by the OS (Operating System).



You cannot change that or add directly from somewhere else as this is already the "maximum" encoded in your system's Discrete Logic ( a subsystem hardwired* or etched* on the motherboard ).



One way you can ensure the best total performance of your PC is to install the MAXIMUM amount of RAM that it can take.



The rule on that is determined by two limits:



1) Your OS (32-bit (XP or Vista) will have a limit of 4 GBs (about 3.5 for Windows and 0.5 for the hardware subsystem) and 64-bit (XP or Vista depending on version) can go from 8 to 128 GBs)



2) Your PC slots number and physical RAM acceptance (varies by manufacturer and model line)





* Hardwired means soldered to the motherboard

* Etched means burned on the motherboard ( those gold circuits lines )





The easiest way to get that information is to visit the support site of the PC manufacturer.
2009-02-18 21:33:00 UTC
I would say that you should become an Engineer and when you figure out how to do it let me know. I'm sure it took a lot of brain power of a lot of people to make a video adapter work by using the computer memory without adding dedicated memory to the adaptor.



You can't steal memory from the hard drive cuz it has none to steal. The drive is just a data storage device.
Jakerrulz
2009-02-18 21:18:05 UTC
Why not have fallout 3 use hard drive instead of ram??



Its the same issue, Ram is fast and to render good graphics, you need lots of vram (video ram). most laptops use an integrated graphics card so it shares memory with the ram. it is soldered onto the motherboard so it would be VERY difficult to remove it and replace it.



What kind of laptop are trying to play fallout 3 on?? i would only suggest an alienware laptop, as that is what they are built for.



and it doesnt steal, it borrows, because it gives it back when its done =]
jorgen1977
2009-02-18 21:25:22 UTC
You can't do that. You wouldn't want to do it anyway, because a Hard drive works a lot slower than your RAM, so it would be impossible to play any newer 3D game. When you have a separate video card, it's RAM is in turn a lot faster than your computer's normal RAM.



I see that among the requirements for the game is "NVIDIA 6800 or better / ATI X850 or better", so I strongly doubt that your video card is that good too. What I also see is that under Windows XP, only 1 Gb of RAM is needed. Consider downgrading, a lot of expert actually recommend that in general.
Bassman1
2009-02-18 21:20:08 UTC
Ram memory and hard drive memory/storage are totally different. The hard drive has no memory it only stores your operating system, files, data, pictures etc. The ram/memory modules is shared by the operating system and all programs including the video and audio and can not be changed. Install more ram to the maximum your system will allow.

Most lap tops are not great for gaming unless you buy one made for gaming and they cost from $2000.00 to $5000.00. Always check the specification on the game before installing.

Hope this helps
Pete
2009-02-18 21:35:44 UTC
You could always get more system memory. Provided your system can handle it, you could get 4GB (two sticks of 2GB) of the fastest system memory your laptop's cpu/chipset will support. By getting faster memory, you theoretically allow both your processor and video adapter to go faster since they share that memory. By getting two matching sticks, you allow your system to run in dual channel mode. I believe the manufacturer's website is a good place to start to find out the fastest / highest capacity of RAM your laptop can support. RAM is cheaper nowadays than I ever remember it being. You should save your old ram in case you have to return the laptop.
KeWr
2009-02-18 21:15:13 UTC
Dude, that would be so slow, you are better off waiting on slow RAM rather than waiting on your HDD to virtualize it.

That would be a completely awful experience.

Page files are cussed for a reason. Video is definitely one of the worst uses for them.
2009-02-18 21:15:17 UTC
You can't. It's measured the same way but it's a different format.


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