Question:
Mac or PC?
2007-04-08 13:09:17 UTC
Back in the day, as a youngin getting my first experience with computers, every manufacturer out there had their own idea of what a home computer should be. You had 6502s 6809s, and a bunch of mismatched proccessors competing for the foothold in the PC market. Someone got smart and decided that the software market needed compatibility. Most all PC manufacturers followed suit and designed their systems with the idea that they would all run the same software. Everyone but Apple that is! I had an Apple! It was my favorite! Only problem was, as the industry grew, my Apple became less apt to run any software. I finally decided, let Apple have their own way, tuck their smug little noses up their smug little bungholes, and went to IBM compatibles. Apple went their own way alright! For 20 plus years! Had a few years they even shined early on but it didnt last long. As market statistics have shown, they never gained any considerable amount of the home computer market. Now, 20 plus years later, those smug nose in the bunghole fools want part of the market. All Apple has left to back them are a handfull of unknowing Mac users who have seemed to catch the smug nose in the bunghole attitude and really dont know the history of their operating system. I dont ever remember a day that an Apple computer out audioed, out videoed, or out softwared ANY PC! This is all an old wives tale! You want your Macs? You want to be part of that elite group of smug fools who still back a computer that is nothing more than a joke? You want to have to buy your parts from Apple while the rest of us have the freedom to buy from dozens of hardware manufacturers? You want to pay out the wazoo for parts? Feel free! More power to ya! Keep in mind tho, keep your smug mouths shut when it comes to how good your Mac is because those of us who are in the know, realize what Apple Mac is REALLY all about ! Fleecing the public with misleading advertisement! The whole "You can run Windows on a Mac" ad campaign is pure stupidity! Why would anyone want to pay three times as much for a Mac with windows on it when he could buy a windows system in the first place? This little ditty was written for those of you who are thinking about going to a Mac. Dont let them BS you!
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silvcslt
2007-04-08 15:52:31 UTC
I'm one of the guys who stayed with Apple, through to the end of their old operating system (very much changed, but still recognizably the old original). About halfway through my latest "old" Mac (an iBook portable, bought in January, 2001) I had it retooled for the OSX system. I then had a combination of a Unix-based system (which was the new standard for OSX) and a capability of accessing the old sysem ("Classic") so I could use older osftware.



What happened was that too many of the many, many software developers (including Microsoft) who either make software usable on Macs or versions of their "standard" software that the Macs can use said it was too difficult to patch up (note the words "patch up" — I'll come back to them later) the old OS software. So Mac did what any rational and successful user friendly manufacturer does (or should do). It took its nose out of whatever bunghole it was comfortable in, and put its team to work. After spending a lot of money and effort at trying to develop a new system altogether, they decided that that was not the way to go, and went on to the unix system. After about 4 or 5 years of use, I find that this was an excellent idea. The new sysem is exceptionally stable, system wise, and has little problems. It also, so far, has been reasonably immune from both bugs and successful malware of all kinds.



My wife and I bought two new Macs last fall, connected them to a home wireless sysem, and had the old Mac retoooled again with added capacity (it is a rather heavy portable, but we use it in a third location in the house). These are the Macs with Intel processors, rather than Motorola processors and we notice the difference. The next OS version, due this summer, will be able to use the Intel processor with either Apple or Windows software (easily interchangeable, I hear). After I let the other customers test it out for a year or so, I'll get it, since by then it should be debugged — I'll also spring, through my internet provider (Rogers, in Canada) for the iPhone which can be used as a remote control for the new Mac. Things should continue to be hunky dory.



I think, in general, without being a techie I am quite familiar with the history and the use (advantages and disadvantages) of the Mac operating systems (plural) as they have evolved. The technology is fine by me. I think that we really don't yet know whether the (on the analogy of the automobile) a system with a planetary gear (the old Model T Fords) and a soft top is the standard, or a system with a hard top and standard gearshift (which evolved into an automatic gear) is the way things will go.



The shift in the automobile took till the 1928/29 model year before Ford, which had been dominant with its model T, caved in, suspended production for a year, and started to build a standard automobile in the face of the rise of GM. Automatic shift came in around the late 1930s and the last prewar models, and didn't become standard till the late 1950s — close to 50 years after the original model T! We are about 30 years into the household computer as a standard consumer good.



I note that the standard you speak of, the IBM-type machine (no longer made by IBM) using Microsoft operating software that has been continually patched up based on the original software, has not yet changed a lot, though the shell around it has changed quite a bit (witness Microsoft's latest release). I wonder who has what part of the anatomy up their bunghole, Apple or the supposed mainstream?



PS: In terms of "bragging rights" postscripts, I didn't start using computer-type devices till the late 1970s, when I had an Olivetti wordprocessor I used at my office and a litle Sinclair I played around with and programmed for at home. I was, however, involved in computer industry strategic development and participated in one of the first national reports in this area in 1971 or 1972. Other than that, zilch.



My wife, however, was the one who made the decision to get into Macs in 1984, when they were first released. She did so because she had worked with IBM mainframes in medical research from about 1963 and 1964 and had observed that one of the major problems of training a large staff to computerize medical statistics was the cumbersomeness of human interface. Therefore, a sysem that had an easy to use windows system (before Windows) was practically appealing to her, particularlly when we hoped that the computer would be useful in educating our youngest child, who was somewhat learning disabled. It worked well, indeed. Our son now is involved with Dell, and our son and daughter are intimately familiar with computers and their uses. Lots of that we owe to the user-friendliness of the original Macs.
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2016-05-20 05:13:30 UTC
More advertising, a stronger marketing team, simple design, homogeneity. PC is basically any computer not a mac, and of course they will run the gamut in quality/price/design. Therefore the only thing that Macs really have over every PC is that they can run Apple proprietary software. There's also an image thing that I'm noticing with Macs. Due to their branding and advertising Macs are identified as "cooler" than their PC counterpart in certain subcultures. I'm seeing that a lot of you put down 'virus free' as one of the major pros of a mac. That however has to do with the Unix based operating system run on the Mac rather than the Mac itself. If PC users are so inclined, they can also get a virus free operating system in one of the many Linux flavors.
2007-04-08 13:44:16 UTC
Wow, I never thought one person could be so misinformed. Seriously, you don't know your *** from your elbow when it comes to computers and operating systems; you just think you do. You don't even have the history right. It wasn't that "someone got smart" at all. What happened is that IBM wanted to do the same thing as Apple was doing, building closed systems with the hardware and software designed together. Then they made one of the biggest corporate blunders in history (from their standpoint), they decided to temporarily release a computer based on open architecture standards until they completed work on their own. They figured with their marketing and distribution muscle, they'd hurt Apple sales until they released their own version of the same idea as Apple's, but based on OS/2. What happened in the meantime, is that the open architecture ecosystem took off, Microsoft provided an operating system, other companies like Compaq were born, and the rest is history.



Admit it clown, you've never used OS X (playing with it for 5 minutes in a store doesn't count). The last Macintosh operating system you touched was probably a late eighties early nineties version.



Yeah, many Mac users don't know what they're talking about, however, neither do most PC users, and most people who really know about computers, scientist, engineers, etc. all agree that OS X is arguably the best operating system ever made.



Why would anyone want to run Windows on a Mac? Because, although most major software titles have a Mac version, there are a few that don't and running Windows solves that problem. The only myth here is the one your perpetrating regarding the dearth of software for a Macintosh. Let's see your Windows machine run *nix applications. Let's see your Windows machine run command line BSD. (without loading those Os's on separately)



The fact is, most people don't know anything about computers (just look at the questions on this site alone) and most would be best served running OS X. I just love when some weenie, with his malware infested Windows machine, proclaims how "Macs suck".



The only smug fool here is you, a hillbilly with only a modicum of Windows knowledge. You know little about OS X, and even less about the *nix world.



There are some arguments against going with an Apple computer. If you're a serious gamer or one who likes to build your own systems, then it's not the best choice. However for most, especially in regards to laptops, the better choice for most (again,not all) is a Macintosh.



p.s.

I don't own a Mac, I build all my own computers, I mostly run Linux, my degree is in Information Systems and have more operating system knowledge (all operating systems) than most. Any computer enthusiast that only knows one operating system, isn't worth anything.

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UPDATE:

"Red, I was probably building PCs while you were still jukin in your panties!"



Uh-huh, yeah sure you were. "Jukin"? Is that Appalachian hillbilly slang? "Gosh dang Pa, we gonna be eatin' jukin squirrel for dinner again tonight?" "YeeeHaaaaaaa!"
Chris N
2007-04-08 20:20:58 UTC
This article at the url below, despite the unexpected title, "Microsoft is Dead," brings a calmer and highly qualified perspective to the question.
2007-04-08 13:34:27 UTC
WHAT!!! MAKE IT SHORTER! ITS HURTING MY EYES!


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